Vous trouverez ci dessous, en Anglais la retranscription d’une conversation avec David Daniels, CCO of YOUar et co-fondateur de l’open AR Cloud.
I had a recent conversation with David Daniels from YOUar. It was an awesome talk in which we covered different aspects such as Hyper Reality, Open Reality / AR, Spatial DNS and when the ARCloud would be ready to live incredible AR Experiences.
But first things first, what is doing YOUar ?
YOUar is a company that has been working on computer vision and content persistence for the past 4 years. It’s obvious to us that the cellphone is the platform needed for now but it is a transitional platform to the head mounted displays.
They are basically creating the operating environment that everybody will be using tomorrow.
What it will be the usage of what you are building ?
We are building a new human language.
In a recent future we will alter what other humans have placed in the virtual world on top of the real world. It means it’s a highly contextual and interactive future where people to people or one person to many is able to express themselves in a physical location as well as in the virtualization of a physical location. Most AR will be experienced through dimensional virtual reality. VR is going to be at 9 out of 10 times the way we are going to experience AR. AR is a necessary to get passed location itself. Once you are able to understand persistance then you can remotely change any AR object in placed on the earth dynamically and alter the information that coming through that object or that experience in a fluid way, like the internet.
This new world will leads you to the most intrusive data set that man knows.
If people will be able to place virtual objects in this 3D copy of the virtual world and if people will be able to alter other people 3D objects, what comes first to my mind is data privacy. Can you talk a bit more about this ?
This new world will leads you to the most intrusive data set that man knows. You’ll have a massive spatial understanding of everybody’s position in real time, everybody’s spaces, everybody’s gaze, what their attention span is. And all of these data analysis is a very distractive thing for data privacy. We are working on creating an Open Reality and there is many ways to create this
One of the most interesting blockchain solution is a spatial DNS
What is Open Reality ?
Open Reality is even beyond the AR Cloud, it includes all spatial data of all kind and you need to find a way to compartmentalize your private data in a special (spatial) sense. It’s difficult but it can be done and we need to start thinking about it. One of the most interesting blockchain solution is a spatial DNS which is an ability for there to be an understanding of all spatial points across the planet but also publicly shared but also privately controlled and I mean personally controlled not private company control.
What would it take to have the ARCloud working with Open Reality Standards ?
- You need an operating environment like the one we are building. We mean an open source environment that you could put on top of all systems
- You also need to address the data privacy question and not replicate what is happening today with the web giants that are using our data without us knowing it. So we would need a spatial attention token where people would be paid for their attention to be taken for example.
Today Google and Facebook know what we look at, what I like or not. They also know my location bu they don’t have a spatial understanding of my room. Tomorrow companies will be able to understand your space, what is the size of the room, what’s inside the room..
- You need a spatial DNS (like the one from the NGO Verses), they are currently doing product testing with the companies that are present in the ARCloud as well as IOT. If you have a spatial DNS, you have a visual index and all you need is a few points in space that are visually understood that any computer vision can understand.
- Then you need the hardware figured out because you have to remember that the virtual side is actually the larger piece. The ability to virtualize those spaces is actually where most of the activities will take place and you need the trusted execution environment and you need them to be better than they currently are and you need them to be Open Reality approved.
Hyper reality is telling us to really work on conflict mitigation
Yes, with this Open AR Cloud project, the idea is to avoid creating a hyper reality experience.
Totally agree, Hyper reality (NDLR: is a short film that immerses the viewer in a very busy augmented world) is telling us to really work on conflict mitigation (how in spatial terms you decide what you want to see).
When do you think the ARCloud will be mainstream or at least ready to be used by everybody?
It’s really difficult to say, but I think that the ARCLoud will be like tap water in 5 years.
Thanks a lot David for your time and for sharing all your thoughts on AR and VR. Let’s talk again very soon!
Cette interview est la première d’une série de deux. Je vous propose de retrouver la prochaine au mois de septembre.
Bonnes vacances 😉
Jean-Francois Kitchiguine is a spatial computing consultant and speaker since 2010. He builds tailor made conferences and helps clients to understand the challenges of spatial computing linked to their industry. Thanks to his dual IT and Business skills, he leads spatial computing projects, from the POC to the industrialization phase. Jean-Francois Kitchiguine sits on the board of RA Pro and is a founding member of the Open AR Cloud Association.